In Canada, we have a couple of CDMA carriers - Telus and Bell. The GSM carrier is Rogers. This month I am just finishing a 3-year contract with Telus. I had already decided to sit on the fence and see what way the cell wind was blowing. I recently purchased a no contract Treo 700P with a guaranteed 30-day money back return policy. Was curious to test it out and didn't think I would keep it - now I'm sure it's going back. (Telus tried to sell me into the big discount price with the multi-year commitment. Turns out the Treo is returnable but the commitment sticks. Needless to say, I bought the phone outright and opened it carefully with returning always... always in mind.) While the Treo has a bevy of Mac software and utilities - it needs them. (and some of them not cheap either) The Treo is *at best* unstable and generally unfriendly. Sure you could learn to live with its warts. (remember OS 7 and OSX beta?) However, I've crashed the Treo more often than a Yugo with four bald tires. Apologies to the legion of loyal Yugo owners - all two of you. At least Blackberries are stable - they just don't like playing with Mac's. Comparatively, I was given a Garmin c530 touch screen automotive GPS for Christmas - I know, spoiled. It worked fabulously out of the box. Never even looked at the manual. You would of thought Apple had built it. Very cool. It just works. Granted, Garmin has been slow to offer Mac software but I was able to update the software using Virtual PC and the new Intel machines would laugh and do it in the background. Soon baby... soon. The Treo and its Palm software? In my best Bart voice, "Groan..." If the Treo and its *suspect* Palm software is the best Smartphone for the Mac then waiting for the OSX version of iPhone is a no-brainer. Sure we can nitpick HD size and this and that but look at what you are comparing it to? Beam me up Scotty versus sitting banging a rock. By the time they get to offer it in Canada it will be well into a subsequent version and most of the early adopter's bugs will be well known and addressed. Job's has already called it an iPhone so regardless what it ends up being officially called, he's already pulled down millions in free advertising. Call it anything you want now, it will always be known as the iPhone. The master orchestrates as only he can. You gotta' love it. From a time when we borrowed $150M pocket lint from Mr. Gates to protect an Apple platform just hanging on - to now. He takes visionary to a new version. Doesn't hurt that form and function are a mantra at Apple. Always nice when Apple raises the bar... again... R. > > From: John Griffin <jwegriffin at mac.com>." >> <titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> >> Subject: Re: [Ti] OT: iPhone - shock ? >> >> One other thing that one has to keep in mind is that Cingular, claims >> to have the fewest dropped calls. However according to Consumers >> Reports it is among the worst and least reliable carriers in North >> America. >> >> Why not Verizon? It is the top rated carrier in North America right >> now (again, according to Consumers Reports). >> >> jg >: > >That really has nothing to do with it. It is not about the carriers...it is >about the tech. Verizon is CDMA and most of the world is GSM with SIM >cards. So, apple is obviously interested in dealing with the majority of >the market, globally. Cingular and T-Mobile are GSM in the states. So, >they chose Cingular and they are GSM and the largest in the US as well. > >Apple might choose to build a CDMA version, there are various >prognostications on that, but for now, they chose GSM, for obvious reasons. > >The US and Japan have some CDMA carriers...and a few other countries have >small CDMA based cell carriers here and there, not many, but the vast >majority of the world operates via GSM. > >Sorry..but maybe apple may choose to do a CDMA phone. I don't think so from >what I have heard, but who knows. > >Ross, correct me if I am wrong. > >Cheers > > >_______________________________________________ >Titanium mailing list >Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984