Wrong forum? > From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics.org> > <titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> > Subject: Re: [Ti] 10.5.3 >> From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics.org> >> Date: 30 May 2008 19:09:52 GMT+02:00 >> To: Trevor Jacques <Trevor at Videlicet.com> >> Cc: MacOS X Server List <macos-x-server at lists.apple.com> >> Subject: Re: STOP FEEDING THE TROLL! Re: 10.5.3: Server Mail gets >> even worse, kills incoming SMTP >> >> >> On 30 May 2008, at 18:32, Trevor Jacques wrote: >> >>> Evidently, there are two main camps in the Server community: those >>> who only intend to use what's under the hood; and those who see >>> Apple's marketing and documentation about a GUI above all the Unix >>> stuff and expect it to work as documented. Many times on the e-mail >>> list and the discussion list, I've seen the 'under the hood' >>> community humiliate the GUI community for having the gall to expect >>> the product to work as advertised and documented. It's a rather >>> unpleasant sight. >> >> Apple has effectively abandoned the small user, that is, anyone not >> prepared to pay $6,000 / yr for a support contract. Unfortunately, >> they have continued to market as they have before. As I and others >> have pointed out, you can't believe anything coming out of Apple >> about Server at this time. This marks the start of the decline of >> Apple, which will hit Mac OS X client next. Actually, it already has >> with a drop in quality and the outsourcing of repairs. The iPhone/ >> iPod and AppleTV is where Apple is now innovating. We can see some >> of the new stuff being retrofitted to the Mac OS after it is stable >> there. Apple is a consumer electronics/phone/media giant now. Server >> doesn't have much of a role in that picture. When client is no >> longer important as a media platform, we can expect it to start its >> slide out of existence. >> >> This List is populated by at least one arrogant know-it-all, who >> seems only able to maintain his self esteem by heaping shit on >> anyone not up to his 'standard'. Beyond this is a number of people >> who have invested their careers in Mac Server and must reject any >> criticism of Apple, no matter how justified it is. The fact that >> Apple continues to market to the new user as a point-and-click >> product that "just works" and that some of these people appear on >> this List, since it is the only place where any support of Server >> occurs, seems to be a fact they continue to ignore. >>