Marcus Thanks for the reply. I have a take apart guide, both online and in my head. I have stripped this machine more times than I care to remember. Not only am I concerned about the noise. It is very irritating when you are trying to surf and watch TV at the same time. I am also now concerned about the left fan not coming on. Does anyone know when it is supposed to come on. Do the fans work independantly. I have noticed the right and the middle fan come on at different times. It seems the middle comes on after the right one, to give it a boost maybe. So I am assuming that the left and right should come on together. Simon On 29 Sep 2009, at 17:23, Marcus Benjamin wrote: > It sounds to me like you have a fan with a bad bearing/bushing. > You can't take the panel off & have it get as hot as it normally > gets unless you introduce some heat to it. > But then the heat is from a different area than normal & it isn't > replicating your exact problem. > > On 7:33 AM~9/29/09, at 7:33 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> For the last few months I have been having some trouble with a >> noise fan on my TiBook. At first I thought it was the one on the >> right hand side (under the power button), but after closer >> inspection today it sounded like the middle one. There are three on >> this model, one under ear speaker grill and one directly in the >> middle at the back. >> >> I took the bottom casing off a few weeks ago, blew out as much dust >> and rubbish as I could and it seemed to have solved it. However, >> the last few days the noise is back and worse than ever. It is a >> horrible dry grinding noise, but I still can't 100% tell where it >> is coming from. >> >> Today I took the bottom off again, this time with the machine >> running, stood it on one end and then ran a number of heavy apps - >> iTunes, OpenOffice, Scribus, GIMP, Sequel 2 and MacTracker - at the >> same time to try and stress it out enough to get the fans on. Only >> the middle one came on and it was pretty quiet, just a normal fan >> noise. The other two didn't come on. >> >> I put it all back together and within minutes the noise was back >> again - and is still doing it now. Listening carefully it sounds >> like it is the right hand side fan. I cannot feel any air coming >> out of the left or the back vent, but when I put my hand over the >> right vent the fan seems like it gets faster and the noise worsens. > Can you cut little strips of paper & put them in the vent holes to > see if they rattle & therefore are spinning? > Just a quick dumb thought, or maybe a twist-tie from your grocery > store bread loaf? >> >> I have checked and there is nothing stuck in it and no wires over >> it/near it. >> >> 1. Is it dangerous, as in will it stop working? > It can be problematic if your Mac gets too hot too often. >> 2. Is it a known/common problem with the TiBooks? >> 3. Should replace it? >> 4. I cannot remember ever feeling the left hand side fan come on >> (no air coming out), would this put additional stress on the other >> two fans? >> 5. Can anyone with a Ti tell me if their left hand side fan comes on? >> 6. Can I spray it with WD40 or anything similar? > NEVER spray WD-40 on a fan assembly especially in small electronics. > WD-40 is a Water Deterrent >> 7. Is it the fan or is it just a noise vibration through some of >> the casing? > It sounds to me like the fan bushings/bearings are shot, I've had > that a lot. >> 8. What would be needed for all the fans to come on? > Email me back to remind me, I should have a take-apart guide for you. > > Good Luck, > > Marcus > >> >> I know I have probably asked this before, but I never got to the >> bottom of it. This TiBook is my only Mac and I do not want it to die. >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5)