At 5:35 -0700 04/17/2003, Gene Steinberg wrote: >I've had similar problems. This appears to be an issue between Safari >and HP laser printers. Mine is an 8000DN, and the symptoms are the >same: Awfully slow. Thanks, Gene. I've found that unsecure (non-https) sites print with acceptable speed. And Dave, yeah, I tried saving the secure site as a .pdf file and it did print, but it still took an amazingly long time ( > 15 minutes). Interestingly, printing a .pdf from safari with the PDF Browser Plugin prints just fine. Strange, but I guess it uses its own printing engine. (?) Peter -- A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Eudora 5.2.1 on Mac OS X 10.2.5