[X-Apps] Problem: Apple Talk & Asante Router
Scott
scott-xlists at scotist.com
Fri Aug 8 21:45:21 PDT 2003
Albert,
You said you have "File Sharing set to FTP". This is not quite correct.
Each of the choices listed in System Preferences -->Sharing is a
separate service. Filesharing is not FTP, and FTP is not filesharing.
You need to turn on "Personal File Sharing". You probably don't need
FTP turned on, unless you plan to use an ftp client to transfer files
back and forth. This would mean learning another application.
1. Turn on personal filesharing on the G4 (the one from which you want
to copy files). While you are in the Sharing pane of system
preferences, check the computer name. Is it "Albert's computer"? If so,
change it to something that identifies the G4 as such, or by location,
etc. "G4", "Office Mac", "Speedy", etc. On the G3, change the computer
name to "G3", "Kitchen Mac", "The Old Beast", or some such easy to
recognize name.
2. On the G3, if the Connect to server dialog is open and still doesn't
see the G3, close it and reopen it. You should then see the G4 listed.
Doubleclick on it.
3. Enter BOTH the username and the password of your account on the G4.
If you are sitting at the G3, and trying to connect to the G4, you
would want to enter the G4's username and password. If you do this
correctly, and the username you used is an admin user, you'll be
offered both the entire hard drive or your user folder. pick one, not
both.
In addition to the computer-naming scheme I outlined above, there is
one more thing you can do to make things easier. Use the SAME username
on both machines. When the dialog box comes up asking for username and
password, it autofills the username. Unfortunately, it can only guess,
and it auto-enters your username on the machine at which you are
sitting. So, as an example, if you are sitting at the G3, trying to
connect to the G4, it will fill in your G3 account's username. Not
recognizing this is the cause of roughly 95% of the filesharing
"authentication errors" or "bad password" call I get.
So to summarize:
Your 1 mistake was to turn on FTP instead of filesharing. Make sure you
turn on Personal Filesharing, not FTP.
The next 2 things to watch for:
Make sure both machines have easy-to-recognize names.
Use the correct username and password for the machine to which you are
trying to connect.
In the "Just won't work" category:
The "Network" icon in the finder will do absolutely nothing for you at
this time. It will only show items on a "netinfo" network, which you
generally only find in business or school networks.
In the "Hallelujah" category:
This will be changed in Panther (10.3). The Network icon will function
just as you expected it to. It will show available network volumes
(filesharing via appletalk , smb, or rendezvous). The connect to server
dialog will only be necessary for connecting to shares which don't
advertise themselves on your local network.
Wow. Awfully long-winded answer for a "checked the wrong box, almost
there" message.
--
Scott
For others on the list:
Yes, Finder and Terminal both do FTP. Finder is one-way, Terminal
requires one to learn how to use ftp on the command line. Neither is an
optimal solution for this case.
On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 7:43AM, Wayne Clodfelter wrote:
> Albert,
> I will look for others to answer your question so that I may learn
> something, myself, but in the meantime, I will tell you that I have a
> similar setup as yours; 2 beige G3s ethernetted via a FR1004C.
> I simply set up file sharing and gave administrative access to each
> computer to the other one. Now, the HD for each computer mounts on the
> other desktop at startup. You can limit access to specific folders
> and/or files via permissions.
> Transferring files is as simple as navigating to the HD (or connected
> drives) of the other computer and dragging and dropping whatever you
> want to transfer.
>
> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Albert D'Amanda wrote:
>
>> Hello All
>>
>> I am trying to connect two macs ,( Backup) B&W & a ( Primary) G4,
>> Jag 10.2.6 via Appletalk.
>>
>> I am using an Asante Router FR1004 via Ethernet Ports.
>> (BTW. The asante works great connecting two macs and a PC into a
>> single comcast.net line-IP address )
>>
>> I want to transfer files from my Main G4 over to the G3 Mac.
>> At both boxes, in Network ,Apple Talk is turned ON
>> At both boxes File Sharing is set to FTP
>> Have setup ownership & permissions on each of the Macs bootup drives
>>
>> The problem is that at each of the macs, opening up the bootup
>> drives, clicking on Networks and then on Servers, only the mac I am
>> using is listed. ??
>>
>> I would expect that both macs would be listed if the Apple Talk
>> Network is active
>>
>> I assume this is telling me that I do NOT have an Apple Talk network
>> connection between the two Macs?
>>
>> When I go to Finder -GO -Connect to Server , it asks for an IP
>> address only. No indication of any panel that says Apple Talk.
>>
>> So my questions are
>>
>> 1.Will Apple Talk work with a ethernet Router ?
>>
>> 2. If so what am I doing wrong ?
>>
>> 2. Can anyone direct me to a tutorial on configuring Apple Talk
>> Network using Jag?
>>
>> Both Help and Apple Care via Sherlock are not helpful
>> The book on OS X I am using does not display the panels that I am
>> seeing with Jag!
>> BTW. Back in the "old days", OS9, I used Apple Talk between two macs
>> w/o any problems-very simple in those days
>>
>> Albert
>>
>>
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