[X-Apps] mail.app and MS mail server

[Dennis T Cheung]

That is absolutely not true and totally unfounded. If you've ever actually
tried to use Entourage with Exchange, you would know that Entourage doesn't
fully support Exchange.

1) MS Exchange server communicates with Microsoft Outlook via a very well
documented protocol called MAPI.  (Just do a search on amazon.com.) However,
it also supports IMAP, POP, and SMTP for the purposes of supporting clients
that are not Outlook.

2) Entourage for the mac only supports Internet standards like LDAP, IMAP,
POP, and SMTP.

3) The real reason is NOT that the person's IT department disabled POP,
IMAP, and SMTP because "MS brainwashing", but rather that the person's IT
department probably enabled a form of authentication encryption called
NTLMv2. This is not particularly common, but Entourage supports it, whereas
Mail.app does not. Frankly, I think it is off by default but I don't recall.

For any other Entourage questions, may I recommend the Entourage-Talk
mailing list <mailto:entourage-talk-on at lists.letterrip.com>.

4) Finally, if you're using Linux, you can connect to an Exchange server
with full collaborative capabilities. May I recommend that you try Ximian
Evolution with the Exchange connector. I've used it in the past and it works
just fine. Or, why not use a Mac at work like I do? :)


On 1/23/03 10:38 AM, "Jay Snyder" <jay.snyder at verizon.net> wrote:

> Very simple answer to this.   Entourage and Outlook both talk to MS Exchange
> server with a MS Proprietary (and undocumented to the outside world)
> protocol.   Apple Mail (and any non-MS product) doesn't know this protocol.
> To satisfy the DOJ, Exchange Server also supports connections via standard
> protocols such as POP3, IMAP, and SMTP, but these are turned off by default,
> and most MS-centric IT depts. don't turn it on because they have been
> brainwashed by their MSCE training that everything is to be done the MS way
> or NO way.
> 
> For this reason, I'm stuck with Outlook at work -- I have a Windoze computer
> just so I can get email -- I use Linux for everything else.
> 
>> X 10.2.3.
>> 
>> I can send and receive mail with other mail servers, such as unix
>> system at my local ISP. The problem arises only with the server at the
>> office. I am pretty certain the Microsoft Mail Server running on
>> Win2000. Exchange Server is running for some users, but I have no
>> reason to believe my account is handled by Exchange.
>> 
>> I can access this server using Microsoft Entourage from the same Mac
>> box. I have checked my password and user name several times, and these
>> are correct in the mail.app setup.
> 
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