Does any OS other than X check the Ownership and Permissions of a file? I emailed a file to a printer and they forwarded it to the people actually making the pens and I got the message back that the file was read only. I resent it, making sure that the Group and Others were set to read & write and they still had trouble. I don't think they are on X, but since I was getting a passed along message, I don't really know. What really puzzles me is that the copy that I CC:d to myself changed from Read & Write for everybody to read only for everyone but me. Why? Did I not change it like I thought? (The original file info still reads read & write.) Does it get set to read only for others since I'm the user who downloaded it? Obviously if there's a settings problem I need to figure it out or vendors will get really PO'd at me. I ended up resending the file from an OS 9 machine after resaving it with Illustrator 8 just to be sure. Obviously this is not a good solution long term. Ideas? Ian Sights