I just did a new install of OS 10.2.6 on my parents' G4 350 MHz Sawtooth (upgrading them from OS 9), and it is running particularly slowly because they don't yet have enough RAM (only 128 MB), which is being rectified. The other problem though is that at startup, there is literally a 75 second pause at network initialization. Anyone have any thoughts on why? I have a similar machine, and mine doesn't do it. BTW, they have a cable modem hooked up (I have DSL), and they have a NIC to give them an Appletalk network at the same time. Thanks. -- David R. Boag, DDS spikedds at bellsouth.net