Charles Martin said: >You *should* use .Mac, but even if you don't, why does that rule Virex >out? It's a standalone product just like any other. You cannot purchase a single license for Virex unless you are a .Mac subscriber: http://www.networkassociates.com/us/products/mcafee/antivirus/desktop/virex .htm Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html