On Apr 27, 2005, at 02:28, Charles Martin wrote: > I suspect that the documentation is simply out of date and reflects an > earlier version of the product. Could the doc be out of date? Of course, it happens all the time. So let's look at the issue of turntables and the iMic a little closer. But first, let's get a few irrelevancies out of the way. (1) One of the docs you quoted states, "You must compensate by clicking on the EQ preset Bass Boost or turning up the individual frequencies to your taste". That's pure banana oil. (Unless he was talking about Final Vinyl v1.0, but v1.1, comprising the RIAA filter, was released in March 2004, and the review's dateline is June 2004.) (2) You said "the product *actually comes with* the RCA to 1/8" converter plug". For our purposes, we can forget the interconnects. Griffin does sell a specially grounded turntable cable (I'm not sure if it's also bundled with the iMic, and if it's what you refer to). At any rate, if you're handy with a soldiering iron, get some Belden #89259 cable and good quality connectors, and make yourself a better one. But that's not the issue. So what is the issue? Leaving aside lots of techie stuff, let's remember that the average consumer audio line level signal is roughly around 300mV, the average consumer mic level signal is roughly around 2mV, and the phono MM/MC pickup signal varies from somewhere around 0.1mV to 5mV, with some designs going as high as 6-8mV. It follows that any audio preamp which does something like the 40-60dB amplification required to bring mic level to line level will also amplify a phono pickup signal. So even without Final Vinyl, if properly connected, the iMic could get a signal out of a turntable. That's because the iMic is, essentially, a mic preamp plus an ADC with a USB interface. But of course, that's not enough. Because, to restore the audio signal correctly, the RIAA equalization also needs to be applied to the phono signal. With the iMic/Final Vinyl, the process goes roughly like this: phono signal -> iMic (ADC -> preamp) -> digital signal -> RIAA -> audio file With the dedicated system it goes like this: phono signal -> phono preamp (-> RIAA) -> iMic (-> ADC) -> digital signal -> audio file The difference may appear minor, but it's actually crucial for sound quality when you take into consideration what's involved. So, can you get sound directly from the average turntable to the iMic? Sure, with the correct interconnects, no problem. What is a problem is the sound quality obtained like this. Maybe it's better than tapping the sound from the headphone output, but, if it is, it's not by much. So, if you care about your music, you definitely do not want to connect the iMic to the turntable rather than the phono stage preamp. <0x0192>