There is a dock.plist, if you trash it you will be back to the few that were there when you started and you have to add what you want back. Also, just checking, you wouldn't be trying to remove running apps. would you? That won't work, for instance if I try to "poof"the postage stamp mail icon now, while I'm running it -- no "poof". John Mee On Feb 4, 2005, at 4:24 AM, Chris Morland wrote: > the icons/photos will not drag off; no poof and also the only method > my research found. Thanks just the same.