On 9/7/2005 9:48 AM, "John Kiss" <john.kiss at comcast.net> wrote: > I also have an external hard drive connected to my computer. Some > time ago I set permissions so that other users (wife, grandkids) on > my computer have no access to the external drive. When they log on, > the external drive does not show up for them. When I switch to my > account, the drive is there. > > Here are my settings for the drive: > Owner: john > Access: Read & Write > > Group: john > Access: Read & Write > > Others: No Access > > Ignore ownership on this volume is not checked. Thank you, John. A good night reading a couple of chapters of David Pogue, delving into Mac Help, experimenting (including accidentally denying myself access to Systems Prefs for awhile) Has given me a good understanding for partially solving the problem. Now one external drive appears on all other accounts, but with a red negative spot (clicking produces a no access dialogue box) (and is accessible to me). The other external drive is still accessible to everyone but its 'ownership' pane is simpler and I expect that's because it is still on factory formatting (which is Fat 32. I expect ownership and permissions to change when I reformat to OS X extended.) Problem is I can deny it to all accounts except mine, or allow all accounts access. But I have more than one account each one an "administrator' but with different names (one for book-keeping, one for graphics, one for music) I can't yet figure how to make a 'group' to include all of my admin accounts but nobody else's (wife and 5 kids) I fear that might require 'root' which is a scary place I have never been. Suggestions for creating a group, or putting all my accounts into an existing group? Tony.