Al Poulin said: >I've read this thread and archived the web page at the link listed >above. I did not see any mention of a named virus or malware or >spyware that applies to OS X. Did I miss something? That article is not terribly well informed or comprehensive. Have a look at: <http://securityawareness.blogspot.com/2005/05/comments-from-mac- expert.html> DO NOT take the following to mean that there is malware out there that you have to be very concerned about, or that you need to have an anti-virus software program. You probably don't. However, some folks, especially those who use their Mac in a business environment, aren't willing to leave their data open to even the smallest potential threat. So this information may be of interest to those folks in deciding whether or not they need anti-virus software, and choosing which program to get. There are zero (as in "none") verified viruses in the wild that can infect OS X proper. There are three Trojans/Worms for OS X: Opener/Renepo, the WordInstaller Trojan, and MP3/Concept. Only two of these are confirmed to exist in the wild (Opener and WordInstaller.) The other two are very rare, but Opener seems to be becoming more prevelant based on the discussion on MacInTouch and the Apple discussion boards. No one seems to know what the exact vector is for Opener. http://www.macintouch.com/opener02.html All of the legacy OS 7/8/9 viruses for the Macintosh can potentially infect Classic in OS X. However, these viruses were designed to propogate primarily via the sharing of floppies, so their primary transmission vector now being gone, they have become very rare, though they are not extinct. (MacAddict even sent out a CD-ROM conataining one of them a couple of years back.) You may also want to note that just about all of these viruses were not designed to be seriously malicious. Word and Excel macro viruses also run on the Mac versions of these programs. There are literally thousands of these. You can keep them from running by enabling "Macro Virus Protection" in the preferences of each of these programs. However, some folks might prefer to have an anti-virus program that can strip out the malicious macro and leave the document intact, rather than only having the option of not opening the document and trashing it. There is spyware for the Macintosh, but it can't be installed via e-mail or a Web site. Installing it requires physical access to the Macintosh, and the user's passwords. Note that clamXav, a free and open source anti-virus program for OS X, doesn't protect you from any of the above, with the possible exception of the Word and Excel macro viruses, and even then it can't do anything better than the built-in ability of those programs to keep such macros from running. I bring this up because many Mac-users mistakenly believe that clamXav is a good free alternative to commercial anti-virus program. It's not. It can only detect Windows viruses, which don't run on a Macintosh, and which are easy to spot and just trash on the Mac. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html