The short version: Thanks for all the help, everything has been resolved on its own. The long version: Well thanks to all of you, I did manage to get everything up and running internally, and after contacting Verizon Online I was informed that they do block port 25 and 80. They apparently do no wish for people to use these services on their own :( I decided to just leave it be, and the firehouse decided to pay a company to do everything for them, hosting and all. So I thank you all for your help. At least I learned a lot about my server set up. And I decided not to buy OS X Server until I get a new ISP, Comcast is due to come to this area soon :) Once that happens I may need some help, but hopefully with a new Boxed and full set, I can manage most of this on my own, thanks all again -- Pedro P Guimaraes 911 Communications / EMT / Fire Fighter Princeton Twp Police Mercer County Lifecomm