Hi, Being that this is a unix group, I assume that many of you use a text editor. Even more probable is that this editor is a vi derivative or emacs. If vi, then perhaps you're using vim that comes with the os or fink or compiled yourself. Just thought I'd let you know that the author of vim has a system for accepting support. This support does more than help Bram, you get to vote on a subset of features for upcoming vim versions...and one of the options is to make it better on MacOS X! http://www.vim.org/sponsor/index.php -- ~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~=-., \|/ (___) \|/ _,.-=~'`^` @~./'O o`\.~@ "Knowledge is Power" /__( \___/ )__\ *PPPFFBT!* -- Francis Bacon `\__`U_/' _,.-=~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~= <____|' ^^`'~=-.,__,.-= ~`'^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`'~=-.,__,.-==--^'~=-.,__,.-=~'`^`