On 04 Jan, 2004, at 00:41, Philip Ershler wrote: > If you've tried the suggestion below and it still won't let you change > things, try this > > sudo chflags nouchg Audio\ 1_02.wav > > and so on. Note that there are two issues here. One is the space in the file name. "Normally," in Unix one "quotes" the space - which is what the backslash (\) in front of the space in the above example does. An alternative would be to quote the entire file name... sudo chflags nouchg "Audio 1_02.wav" or wildcard it... sudo chflags nouchg Audio* This syntax can be used when the filenames all "match." In this case, the sudo should not be necessary since the file is owned by the user performing the operation. The second (and probably your problem) is the "Locked" attribute. The above command clears the "locked" bit, after which one applies the chmod and chown or chgrp commands. If you want/need to change both the owner and group, the chown command can be used. Note that the syntax in Panther has changed. The owner and group are now separated by a colon (:) rather than a period (.). chflags nouchg Audio* chown davidgil:staff Audio* T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 - [Alpha EV6] magill at mcgillsociety.org magill at acm.org magill at mac.com > On Jan 3, 2004, at 10:26 PM, Thomas W Noel wrote: >>> On 03 Jan, 2004, at 23:18, David Gilden wrote: >>> I copied some files off a CD ROM to my HD and they showed up like : >>> >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 davidgil unknown 40653710 20 Dec 11:44 Audio >>> 1_02.wav >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 davidgil unknown 9124092 20 Dec 11:38 Audio >>> 2_01.wav >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 davidgil unknown 40653710 20 Dec 11:44 Audio >>> 2_02.wav >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 davidgil unknown 9124092 20 Dec 11:38 Audio >>> 3_01.wav >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 davidgil unknown 40653710 20 Dec 11:44 Audio >>> 3_02.wav >>> >>> >>> Now I can not rename them in the finder (for some unknown reason), >>> and would like to also change the group settings to the example >>> below: >>> >>> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 davidgil staff 4816445 15 Dec 23:22 DLS61aMac.sit >>> >>> I am guessing that this will solve the problem with renaming. >>> >>> How do I do this (I am in Panther using Bash shell) >>> >> dadvidgil% chgrp staff (filename) see man chgp >> >> davidgil% chmod 644 (filename) see man chmod >> >> Tom T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 - [Alpha EV6] magill at mcgillsociety.org magill at acm.org magill at mac.com