Ok... what version of syslogd is Apple using under Panther? Strings claim it is: 8.2 (Berkeley) 11/16/93 but it is not even close to the version documented in the man page: /usr/sbin/syslogd -? usage: syslogd [-46Acdknosuv] [-a allowed_peer] [-b bind address] [-f config_file] [-l log_socket] [-m mark_interval] [-P pid_file] [-p log_socket] It is launched with an undocumented flag "-s", and in general does not work "correctly" -- that is as I expect syslogd from previous versions (and other Unix). One problem is that it generates errors if the log file does not pre-exist instead of opening the file. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 - [Alpha EV6] magill at mcgillsociety.org magill at acm.org magill at mac.com