On Jun 14, 2004, at 18:40, James Bucanek wrote: > I don't have any handy way of making a zombie process to test this, Ah, now there's a helpful little script someone could write! :) > but what happens when you do a 'ps -lax' with zombies in the list? > What's the PPID listed for the zombies? For my 10.3.4 (Build 7H63) Mac, I did 'ps -lax | less' just out of curiosity. Lucky me! I have a zombie! And the command lists the PPID for it as well, which is not 0 in my case. UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 501 670 668 0 0 0 0 0 - Z ?? 0:00.00 (pap) Before James mentioned this, though, I was thinking of pstree. Of course, it doesn't come installed with OS X, but you can fink it. It's kinda fun to play around with sometimes. gretchen