I somehow get the feeling this is going to be a complex issue. While I understand security is more a policy than something that can just be turned on and off, for my environment, I need to make some changes to the way apache works, and I can not seem to find the answer. If this is covered in a article somewhere, please point me to it. Currently I am hosting a few sites on a OS X Client box, running apache and php, I will not be moving to apache 2 anytime soon. From what I can gather, any file that needs to be served on the web needs to be world readable for apache to be able to send the page out to the visitor. World readable files are of course, readable by anyone. This is fine in the case of html files, but when you get to server parsed files, such as those in php, there can be sensitive data in them. I guess the first thing is I need to hope that php does not ever die, if it were, raw code would be sent out to the browser, and in that raw code could be for example, connection data to a database. I can also instruct users to secure the include files elsewhere, so they will not see those sensitive files in the event php were to fail. The trouble I am having is I am able to read outside the current directly and traverse the entire files system with php using its abilities to read files. I can not read files that apache does not have permission to read, but those that it does, I can. For example, if I were to create a php file reading tool and tell it to go up one directory from my directory that holds all my web files, I would be in my root folder, up one more, and I would see a list of directories that were named the domain names of many other sites I am serving, if I were to jump into one of those sites and look around, I could locate say, some file called conf.incl.php and in that I would see some connection data to a database, from there, I could delete data from the database. How do you prevent this? I am sure since there are so many cheapPHPhosting.com type sites out there, this is either a problem they all have, or one they have figured out how to fix. I think I need to "jail" all php, perl etc stuff to a particular users directory, but I am not sure how to do this. Certainly it can be done by setting the files to have permissions that do not allow anyone other than the owner to read them, however, that wont do you much good to allow apache to serve them either. What tradeoffs in inconvenience will I have to live with to offer shared hosting in a secure way? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Haneda Tel: 415.898.2602 http://www.newgeo.com Fax: 313.557.5052 scott at newgeo.com Novato, CA U.S.A.