Yea, I do have root enabled. I have to wonder if it has anything to do with /etc/ttys because i tried editing that file a while ago to accomplish no login window, but when I did that what happened was my screen flashed twice, then continued to boot up normally until it came to loading the login window then it made no more progress. Then I tried logging in with single user, but nothing would show up on my display. I was lucky that I always enable telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. I couldn't login with telnet from my linux machine with the ibook running on airport, so what I had to do was plug it into the router and change the comments back. Inconsequential, I know. But maybe that problem would shed light onto this current problem. On Oct 7, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Eric Crist wrote: > If you don't have the root account enabled, try that -- Justin Herald If an S and an I and an O and a U With an X at the end spell Su; And an E and a Y and an E spell I, Pray what is a speller to do? Then, if also an S and an I and a G And an HED spell side, There's nothing much left for a speller to do But to go commit siouxeyesighed. -- Charles Follen Adams, "An Orthographic Lament"