On 09/10/2004, at 11:49 AM, Eric Crist wrote: > Unless I'm misunderstanding things, this _is_ a list for people to > discuss the Unix side of Mac OS X, correct? Sure. But then if you want to hinge an argument on that MacGPG is Unix, PGP is not. > That leaves two options for those that have a problem with this: > 1) filter out my mail > 2) live with it. Or you could ... a/ Switch to MacGPG [the Unix option after all] which does not sign using attachments. b/ Choose not to sign messages to lists like this. Expanding on b there ... I don't know any compelling reason for routinely signing messages to lists like this. I signed my earlier message to make the point stated in a & won't sign this one. After all, most listers don't know who I am to begin with & there's nothing at stake in confirming that it's me sending the message. AFAIK any combination of PGP/GPG & Mac email client allows you to choose whether to sign mails on a per mail basis [certainly every combination that I've ever encountered does] even though you will have a default set one way or the other. In the case of my combination of Mail.app & MacGPG there's a toolbar icon showing the state for the current message. When I want the other state I click that icon & it switches, easy as that. On 09/10/2004, at 7:27 AM, Justin Herald wrote: > Really, i just wish Apple would come out with their own version to get > rid of all this trouble and have it fully integrated with OS X. We're closer now than with X.0 & X.1. Back then no support was built in, today Mail.app has support for PGP/GPG built in [& as one lister pointed out Apple endorses MacGPG] even though you have to add the software yourself. Personally I'd like Apple to leave MacGPG with the open source Unix geeks who're doing a fine job with it but bundle their work on OS X install CDs. Cheers, Pedro :-) Web: <http://www.pedro.net.au> PGP Key ID: 387CD96F Instant messaging... AIM: bandidoOfOz ICQ: 27671678 Jabber: pedrofp MSN: mail at pedro.net.au Yahoo: pedro_fp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Let's face it; we don't want a free market economy either." James Farley, president, Coca-Cola Export Corp., 1959