On Apr 13, 2005, at 5:24 am, Tom Shaw wrote: > > I am still at a loss with this thread. What is the key real issue? Because of the default timeout, an application can leverage `sudo` privileges even though the user has not specifically authorised it, and even when the granting of `sudo` privileges might be undesirable. > If you can sudo then you have an admin PW and you can muck about > without issue so what's this thread really about? Something other than you mucking about with your system using `sudo` privileges. > Maybe its about being a little sloppy and an academic usage of trojans. It's not really that academic - it is clearly & well-documented that users will click on things & run them. If you've never used PCs, then you won't realise how easy it is to get a virus from an infected attachment or other .exe - the second time I did it I was REALLY cursing myself for my stupidity, but however educated one is, getting a virus is the _last_ thing one expects from what mostly seems like normal computer usage (clicking on an attachment in order to open it). Considering that I've had 14 - 28 day uptimes since I got my G5 and that I probably run `sudo` in the terminal once a week, if I were dumb enough to run girls_in_bikinis.app that I received by email, then it could almost certainly get sudo rights on my system. Bear in mind that girls_in_bikinis.app does not require use of a password, it just runs, appears to finish & then does its nasties next time I run `sudo` in a terminal. Stroller.