I've been following instructions on http://www.bombich.com to experiment with Login Hooks to automatically run items on User login. Since I intend these things to be global for all Users, this is great. Only problem, login hooks run *immediately* on login, i.e. before the GUI loads, which is not always good. Some things I want need the GUI for User feedback. I don't want to hard code a delay in my shell script since delay times until the Finder is up can vary by machine. Anybody know how a shell script could determine if the Finder is is fully up before proceeding to execute? - opa