I wouldn't go back to 10.2.8. You might run into more problems if you don't downgrade all your applications, too. And I don't know which apps even updated their data model so that downgrading isn't so simple after all if you have used the system in the meanwhile. Try a clean install, yes, if you have the time. I'd be hesitant and see if I could fix things another way first. Alternatives: How full is your disk? Could it be that the archive and install filled your startup disk to the edge? I remember reports that some apps get messy when the disk runs full. Where "full" these days can range in the "few GB" range. A friend of mine had issues with Mail which disappeared after giving OS X more space on the disk. Try removing the preference files of the offending apps, too. You can also setup a new user and then see if the problems exist in the new account. This forum might not be the best place for such a question. I recommend you look at www.osxlist.com and subscribe there. Bjorn -----Original Message----- From: x-unix-bounces at listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:x-unix-bounces at listserver.themacintoshguy.com]On Behalf Of Ethan Rips Sent: 10 March 2005 00:18 To: x-unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: [X-Unix] System upgrade dilemma Disclaimer: I'm a UNIX igno, so please be patient with me... I upgraded from OS X 10.2.8 to 10.3.8 a few days ago, & I've been experiencing continual crashes from Safari, iTunes & occasionally Mail. (I'm running a B&W G3/350MHz with an 80GB hard drive & a 40GB external drive on which I've got a backup of 10.2.8.) It's occurred to me that my installation must've been faulty in some way (I did an archive & install). A look at the crash logs shows invalid address for the apps in question. This raises the question, should I restore the old OS from the external drive or perhaps do a clean install of 10.3.8, then copy my backed up preferences from the external drive to my Mac? Has anyone got any thoughts on the best approach I should take & how to go about it? Thanks. Ethan _______________________________________________ X-Unix mailing list X-Unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender either via the company switchboard on +44 (0)20 7623 8000, or via e-mail return. If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. 3167 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------