At 15:09 +0800 5/17/05, sham khalil wrote: >is bash superior than tcsh? i just need to know <personal experience> Starting with OS neXt I was told that I pretty much had to learn bash even though I was fairly experienced with csh from ancient history when the machine belonged to an employer. So I started writing bash scripts using an O'Reilly book. It was a disaster. My texts in loops just didn't work. It turns out that no one told me, in big enough print, that space characters are a part of commands and do not just separate arguments. [ (space) expression (space) ] is a construct that threw me for a loop for days. I now know that the single character [ is actually the linked name of a UNIX tool - test - that is being invoked as a separate process. But, in fact I went back to csh and discovered that it is really tcsh in OS neXt. I have yet to find an example of a bash script that cannot be rewritten in tcsh. Yeah. There probably are such things but for me tcsh is just fine and I don't have to remember to put spaces in. </personal experience> What I really want is for Apple's MPW (Macintosh Programmer's Workshop) to grow into an alternative shell for OS neXt. -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, but not thoroughly, thought through.