Alexandre Gauthier wrote: > ps waux | grep [p]erl5 That looks just the job thanks! And 'man ps' let me understand why. I get this sort of result: root 1465 22.0 2.0 41440 20472 ?? R 9:14PM 0:25.95 /usr/bin/perl5.8.6 -T -w /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam --no-sync /Us root 1998 11.2 1.6 39356 16736 ?? R 9:16PM 0:02.68 /usr/bin/perl5.8.6 -T -w /usr/bin/sa-learn --ham --no-sync --fo root 66 0.0 0.2 45180 2432 ?? Ss 9:48AM 0:13.50 /usr/bin/perl5.8.6 -T -w /usr/bin/spamd And it looks like it's my cron jobs running sa-learn might be one of things troubling me (hard to tell since I'm compiling an update to KDE via Fink at the moment). Thanks again. -- adrinux (aka Adrian Simmons) <http://adrinux.perlucida.com> e-mail <mailto:adrinux at gmail.com> AOL/Yahoo IM: perlucida, Microsoft: adrian at perlucida.com