Hi-- I just viewed the same group of files from the same ext. firewire drive on the same machine, but booted from two different drives, and two different OS's. These files are at the root of Drive A, which contains neither of the boot volumes. The first time I viewed Drive A from a 10.3.7 boot volume. This is how it looked: drwxrwxrwx 8 jeffrey admin 272 7 Oct 2004 Act 2a Project drwxrwxrwx 7 jeffrey admin 238 12 Sep 2004 Act 2c Project drwxrwxrwx 4 jeffrey admin 136 6 May 2005 Andrew - King of the Wo Project drwxrwxr-x 45 root admin 1530 29 May 2002 Applications Next, I booted from a 10.4.8 volume. Again, these are the same files from Drive A. drwxrwxrwx 8 jeffrey jeffrey 272 Oct 7 2004 Act 2a Project drwxrwxrwx 7 jeffrey jeffrey 238 Sep 12 2004 Act 2c Project drwxrwxrwx 4 jeffrey jeffrey 136 May 6 2005 Andrew - King of the Wo Project drwxrwxr-x 45 jeffrey jeffrey 1530 May 29 2002 Applications Now, it has since come to my attention that this is happening because I have these volumes set to Ignore Ownership in the Finder. So my first question is, is there some flag which is visible at the command line which would show this, and if so, what command would I use? But more and stranger to me is that when I¹m sudo¹d, the same volumes suddenly give ³unknown² as their Owner/Group?? And this is even for volumes where Ignore Ownership is not checked. drwxrwxrwx 8 unknown unknown - 272 Oct 7 2004 Act 2a Project drwxrwxrwx 7 unknown unknown - 238 Sep 12 2004 Act 2c Project drwxrwxrwx 4 unknown unknown - 136 May 6 2005 Andrew - King of the Wo Project drwxrwxr-x 45 unknown unknown - 1530 May 29 2002 Applications I have checked ls with n for these volumes, and indeed, they seem to have numerical user-ids I don¹t recognize but then why are they associated with an Owner name when viewed as a non-superuser, and only display as unknown when a superuser? Anyway, the gist of this is I jesdongitit <grin> Can someone explain how all this works? All My Best, Jeffrey