Folks; For you that don't know; the shipping version of X11 in Leopard was CRIPPLED [only by lack of development time not intention]. join the x11-users list or the new xquartz-dev list for more details. Russell On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Eric F Crist wrote: > Glad to hear you got it fixed! > > Eric > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Mac Daddy wrote: > >> THAT WAS IT! The old Tiger X11 was still on disk, and even started >> bouncing in the dock when I did an 'ssh -Y <machine>', so I >> thought I had X11 . But it doesn't actually *work*. >> >> Borrowed a friend's DVD and installed new X11 and now everything's >> fine. >> >> - md >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Mac Daddy wrote: >> >>> No. I have X11 installed. >>> >>> Could the problem be that it's the old X11 app from Tiger? And >>> that doesn't work on Leopard? It seemed to be exhibiting the same >>> Dock behavior as my other install so I thought it was the new >>> one ... >>> >>> My Leopard DVD isn't with me so I'll have to wait to try a re- >>> installation. >>> >>> Maybe I can find another ... >>> >>> - md >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Eric F Crist wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe it's a dumb question, but did you reinstall X11? It's not >>>> included by default, IIRC. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Mac Daddy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been liking Leopard at the gui level very much! But the >>>>> changes they made affecting my command line use are real >>>>> P.I.A.s!!! >>>>> >>>>> At home I did an upgrade install of 10.5 over 10.4 and X11(and >>>>> everything else) works perfectly! I do an 'ssh -Y <hostname>' >>>>> into any one of my linux machines and launch an X app and it >>>>> just comes up. Very nice (though the new autolaunching of X11 >>>>> is ... strange ... when you used it the other way before). >>>>> >>>>> On my laptop I did an Archive and Install to see if a "clean" >>>>> installation was any different or better. It's different >>>>> allright, but not better! Grrr. >>>>> >>>>> Here if I do an 'ssh -Y <hostname>' and run an X app from one >>>>> of my linux boxes, nothing ever comes up! >>>>> >>>>> Anybody else had this and overcome it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -md >>>>> >>>>> P.S. >>>>> >>>>> Along the same lines, nice that I can use flat files to enable >>>>> NFS shares so I don't need to use NFS Manager (which is not an >>>>> option since it's not compatible with 10.5), but GEEEZZ! The >>>>> whole /etc/exports format just HAS to be entirely different!!! >>>>> Took so #$%$#^^& long to get something so simple up .... Is it >>>>> a BSD-ism or do they just want to annoy? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> X-Unix mailing list >>>>> X-Unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Eric F Crist >>>> Secure Computing Networks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> X-Unix mailing list >>>> X-Unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Unix mailing list >> X-Unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix > > ----- > Eric F Crist > Secure Computing Networks > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Unix mailing list > X-Unix at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix