On 17 Dec 2007, at 23:19, Eugene wrote: > > BTW, as of Leopard, Apple switched over to X.org and away > from XFree86. There's been a lot of gripes on x11-users. It should be noted that almost everyone else has switched, too. The problem occurred a couple of years ago, and probably only just missed 10.4. I would be surprised to hear that XFree86 is still alive or is under any development at all - a number of XFree86's own major contributors forked off the codebase and then re-wossisnamed their own contributions after the license change. Mind you, I don't know that this is a reason for Apple to switch. X11 is very old & stable, Apple probably need few updates from external sources and they could probably have forked off quite happily at the same time. Meanwhile Xorg's development seems to have been quite vigourous since the split, and I would imagine it's developers concentrate on Linux and the other fully open-source platforms. Stroller.