On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:45:49AM -0400, Tom Miller wrote: : : Eugene Lee said on Aug 10, 2004: : : >Without more information, create another user, log in as said new user, : >and see if the same apps still fail to run. Another shot in the dark: : >download and apply the full-sized 10.3.5 Combo Updater. : : Eugene, good shooting! After using the Combo Updater, I now can launch : those apps. Cool, much better than reinstalling Panther! : I had hoped that the capital "B" would work like it used to months ago, : but I still have to use the Caps Lock key. Try another external USB keyboard. If shift-B works, it's more likely to be a hardware problem with your current keyboard. -- Eugene Lee http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/