Paul, Both pages feature Flash 7 animations in their sidebar advertisements. I'd try to install the newest version before troubleshooting your system further. Try here: <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/flash/english/macosx/7.0.24.0/flashplayer7_macosx.bin> HTH, Rick >I now repaired permissions again and got maybe not a million >repairs, but still many. I still can't get >http://www.discoverychannel.nl/_home nor http://www.dpreview.com but >a blue or black screen. I trashed the cache also. > >Paul Moortgat > >On 08 Dec 2004, at 19:36, Andy Hannen wrote: > >>>Paul I clicked on your link and it came up immediately using Safari. >>>Have you repaired permissions lately? Emptied your Cache in Safari? >>>Your Apple site probably came up instantly because it came from the >>>cache in your HD. It is not Safari, but something going on in your G5. >>>Birgit >> >>Same here. IE & Mozilla ok too. >> >>Andy -- Rick Smykla rsmykla at verizon.net