John McDaniel said: >On Jul 6, 2004, at 3:45 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > >> And since OS X almost never crashes >> (I've never had a system crash/kernal panic under OS X) > >I find this so hard to believe that I fall out of my chair. You may want to check out some of my Web sites to figure out why you are having such anomalous behavior with OS X: OS X Routine Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html How To Deal With Common OS X 10.2 Jaguar Problems http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html How To Deal With Common OS X 10.3 Panther Problems http://www.macattorney.com/panther.html If you are having kernel panics, in my experience they are most often caused by a hardware problem. Usually out of spec RAM or a bad USB hub or device, but also possibly a PCI card that doesn't get along with OS X. And a little routine maintenance goes a long way towards keeping OS X perfectly stable. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -Rich Cook.