On 7/7/04 1:30 PM, "Eugene Lee" <list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net> wrote: > Then Eugene Lee wrote: > > Cool, what you re-wrote is much clearer. > > But it still doesn't make sense. In my own experience, ever since I've > used OS X starting with the Public Beta, I have never had any OSX-native > M$ app cause or be the most likely culprit to cause OS X to crash. > > Anyone else? You're kidding right? While my experience on my G4 1GHz TiBook has been fairly great (max out ram and cache) and I very rarely have to restart because of a crash. On the other hand - my wife's G3 Dual USB iBook (which I've got maxed out as well) hasn't stopped crashing since 10.3. It crashes running Safari, Mail, IE, kids games - you name it. I don't know what the problem is. It seems recent. It crashes all the time. I've run every utility I have on it. Don't know if it is related to the logic board - we've only had one time (and only at startup) where the screen has been doing the flickering thing. To be honest - it has been crashing as bad as running a PC with Win 98 - 1st Edition! Any thoughts? Best, Phillip ---------\\\///---------- 1ghz G4 TiBook, 1 gig memory, SuperDrive, Panther (10.3) e-mail: phillip at globalsync.net AIM, iChat: PalmMagnate, MSN: PalmMagnate at hotmail.com