On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 02:01:41PM -0400, don wrote: : : it's not a matter of blind faith...it's a matter of common sense. : fragmentation was an issue in 9.x...it's NOT an issue in osx. stop : surfing magazines and start trusting apple. as far as advice goes, : ask those responsible for managing hundreds of macs in high intensity : shops...ask them what THEY think of fragmentation in osx. Okay. Everyone is wrong. Everyone is right. There, does that make everyone feel better? I hope so. Personally, I'm a bit tired of the back-and-forth tennis match going about fragmentation and whether it's an issue that still must be addressed through 3rd-party products; about the conditions in which fragmentation occurs and how the explosive growth in hard drive capacities have altered the priorities regarding the issue; about people speaking in broad generalities and not differentiating between specific and possibly unrelated problems of file fragmentation, disk fragmentation, directory fragmentation, OH MY; about people wanting a simple answer and not willing to accept the fact that there is no simple answer. I'll say this, and then I'll shut up. If fragmentation (any kind) is an issue to you and the Macs you manage, get a bigger hard drive. -- Eugene Lee http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/