I understand your analogy... However... This seems like a pretty good Windows system... If there is such a thing :-) It certainly does some things that Macs cannot do without extra third-party hardware. It performs a function which MANY Mac users (myself included)... Manage the digital hub (which *does* include TV no matter what Steve Jobs says). My point is not that I think this is *better* than a Mac. I'm sure it's not. My point is, if I'm trying to convince a person to SWITCH to the Mac, deals like this make it very difficult. Aside from the fact that a person has to make a real investment in the platform with new software, training, etc., this computer has features standard that you cannot get without paying extra and/or going third party and/or just aren't available at all on the Mac. And for a LOT less than you would pay for a comparable Mac bundle. I paid over $200 more (education price) for my eMac with SuperDrive and I still would need to add hundreds of dollars worth of accessories to come close to the specs on this PC. I'm just saying that I think Apple needs to do some stuff to market to the "other" 95%... Whether it's a low-cost Mac, a digital set-top box, or something else. Or maybe, as Judi suggested, Macs just aren't the main priority of Apple anymore. I don't know what the answer is. All I know is that any chance for me to convert this person to the Mac platform was thrown out the window with this deal. Chris Malanga cmalanga at bgsualumni.com On 11/2/04 1:49 PM, "lists3-200402" <lists3-200402 at verizon.net> wrote: > i went to a mcdonalds and had a quarter pounder with cheeze, large > fries and a super size coke...i paid with a $10 bill and walked away > with change!!! woohoo!!! i'll never eat at gabriela's again!!! > > :D > don > > Chris Malanga <cmalanga at bgsualumni.com> wrote: > >> A friend of mine just bought a new PC at Aldi (a chain of discount/grocery >> stores here in the US) for $799. >> >> This PC has the following specs: >> >> * IntelÆ PentiumÆ 4 Processor 3.0 GHz Supports Hyper Threading Technology >> * 800 MHz FSB, 1 MB L2 Cache >> * Dual layer DVD/CD writer 2.4x max DVD+R9 >> * Additional DVD-ROM drive easily copies DVDs >> * Built-in wireless LAN 801.11g >> * Watch & record TV on your PC with the FM/TV tuner card >> * Wireless keyboard & wireless optical mouse included >> * RF remote control for easy control of DVD, TV, VCR, CD, radio >> * 160 GB hard drive @ 7200 rpm >> * 512 MB DDR SDRAM >> * 2x FireWire >> * 6x USB 2.0 >> * 8 in 1 Card Reader >> * LAN 10/100 Mbit >> * Windows XP Home Edition >> * Microsoft Works >> * Norton AntiVirus 2004 >> * 12 month warranty >> >> Now, I realize it is a no-name PC (Medion) running Windows XP Home, but what >> you get for the price is amazing. And PC World magazine gave this system >> four out of five stars. >> >> How is Apple supposed to compete with this? I've been waiting for a deal on >> a computer to be the "center of my digital hub" now, but even with an eMac >> at $799, I'd still have to add AirPort, a SuperDrive, wireless keyboard and >> mouse, a card reader, and EyeTV to even come close. I'm seriously >> considering one of these Medions to fill the task until Apple comes out with >> something similar. >> >> I just wish Apple would realize that there is a market for two things: (1) >> lower cost machines without monitor, (2) a digital hub machine like the >> above. >> >> It's really hard to push people to the Mac, and I have done that five times >> in the past two years, but $799 PCs with all the above features make it >> *really* hard. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Chris Malanga >> cmalanga at bgsualumni.com >