I have a small newspaper publishing network that averages 8 workstations, most are running the latest version of MacOS X Panther, and an old one is running MacOS X Jaguar, plus a PowerMac G5 running MacOS X Panther Server. I have on one of my volumes on the server a folder called Backup Central, and inside a folder with the name of each one of my co-workers, which would be wonderful if they could at least save their user folder on their workstation to this folder, with iCal, Address Book and Mail data being the most critical of importance. In the old days before MacOS X, a Finder copy was sufficient, but with the growth of our amount of data, and MacOS X permissions, I'm looking for a bit more elegant solution and use a real backup program. Finally, I would like to backup that volume, plus 3 others on my server containing my design program's files, photoshop files, various FileMaker databases and so on, to one or two external firewire drives that I can disconnect and take home at the end of the day as an offsite backup. Backing up from my Server to a Firewire drive on my workstation just with a Finder copy works fine. However, backing up User accounts from various workstations I have had mixed results, with MacOS X complaining about I don't have sufficient permissions for some items to copy to my backup area on the server. Often after tinkering with the user directory, it turns out to be an obscure preferences for a program that I've long since deleted from the workstation. Deleting the offending file is often the only way past it, as trying to change permissions from the Finder or using Disk Utility to repair permissions doesn't always work. Therefore, I'm now looking for a good commercial backup program for my server and my network, and is smart enough to get past any permission problems, and finally, a smart copy that only backs up the files that have changed, as the amount of data I must now backup requires that level of efficiency (each of 3 crucial volumes on my server contain an average of 12GB of important data). I tried Retrospect a couple of times, but that was well before switching to MacOS X about a year and 1/2 ago, and I wasn't too impressed with it then. Has anyone used Data Backup by Prosoft Engineering? It looks promising and it looks like I can outfit several workstations economically. Joe