Jamie Kahn Genet said: >Which would you recommend, Randy? I like the Dock, so I've never had a reason to try killing it. I once started on an article to tell folks how to turn OS X into a clone of OS 9, but I never finished it, and I didn't get around to doing much experimentation. >Will killing the dock (and is there a >way to do so automatically every reboot with these applications?) The developers of some of these utilities say that they do this. >cause >any instability when an application might expect it to be there? >Sorry to be so nervous - it just seems as if Apple's wound the Dock >fairly tightly into the system. How safe is doing this? I wouldn't expect so, (after all, several of these utilities have been around for a while, and I would expect their developers to note any problems users have had) but, on the other hand, as you say, the Dock is integral to OS X; screwing with it my not be the best idea. Maybe someone brave will try this and report back. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html