On April 28, 2005 03:17 pm, Alex wrote: > On Apr 28, 2005, at 14:29, Ean Kingston wrote: > > The raw audio on a CD is 16bit 4.1khz headerless PCM file. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_CD. > > You mean 44.1. Yes, sorry. > And you don't mean "file". okay but I don't know what else to cal it. > And I, for one, don't quite > agree with the Wikipedia when it says there are "tracks". Strictly > speaking, there's only one track on an audio CD. Okay but what do we call them then? The rest was a rant on my part so I won't argue. > > > As far as there being a problem getting the exact data off an audio > > CD, that > > is not a problem on any system that lets you at the raw device > > Oh, but there is. Because of (a) the audio CD format specs, and (b) the > raw device being the firmware in the CD drive. And thereby hangs a > tale... > > > (AFAIK only the free OSes do this) > > No, but it could be more difficult on a proprietary OS, for obvious > reasons. However, the pre-eminent proprietary OS has such a tool -- > André Wiethoff's superb ExactAudioCopy. On the "Classic" Mac OS there > was Astarte CD-Copy (rip <sigh>). > > > I rip my audio CDs by putting them in a PC running > > FreeBSD and extracting the raw audio > > You can do the same thing on Mac OS X, naturally. Look into cdrdao and > cdparanoia. Good. I was not aware. Of course I haven't had my Mac all that long either. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly.