Thanks DZ, both for the response and the work-around. I really thoguht it was something I could not get right, and not something lacking. I hope they address it soon as to my mind that is fundametal and something I enjoyed about Eudora. However that said, I do enjoy mail and despote this shortcoming, will remain a Mail user. Regards, Roy > Unfortunately, Mail does not have "outgoing" filters, it only filters > "incoming" mail. The best way to do it that I have found, and what is > recommended in the Help file, is to set yourself as a BCC on all > outgoing messages, and filter them when they come back in. A copy > will > still remain in the Sent box, but your incoming copy will be sent > to the > mailbox of your choice. > > I feel the same way, and it is something that I consider > "basic", which > is very much missing; along with multiple boolean expressions in > filters > (i.e. all messages that come from X OR from Y, AND have subject Z.) > > dZ. Roy van der Westhuizen wrote: >> Can anyone help me with a mail filtering question. I run Mail 2.02 on >> 10.4.2. I have filters set up for all my mails. For incoming >> mails they >> work like a dream, but for outgoing mails, they do not. I have tried >> both setting up an additional filter criteria such as if > from >> contains > John > filter to mailbox John, + if > to contains John > >> filter to John. But my outgoing mails still all sit in the "Sent" >> folder. >> >> Alternatively I have set up a separate mail box, i.e. Joe In and Joe >> Out, as a child of the former and then set the filter rule to > if >> to > >> contains > John > then move message to > John Out. But the mails >> still >> sits in the Sent box. >> >> This has been my only complaint about Mail which I have used ever >> since >> OS X came out. Previously I used Eudora. >> I feel I am missing something simple and would appreciate any help.