I have a similar issue but I know that Suitcase is my culprit. I can see this because Suitcase is the last to quit and it refuses to do so. As a test (seeing that you mentioned Suitcase) try quitting it first then shut down. If you Mac does what it should then you can assume that you have an issue something like me. I haven't as yet dug about to see what I can do to fix it, but I know I need to do a clean install to fix a number of issues and I was expecting the issue to go away when I do that. Anyway, best of luck, Cojcolds Alan Holt <alan at bunnyboutique.co.nz> Sent by: x4u-bounces at listserver.themacintoshguy.com 16/12/05 02:03 PM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." <x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> To "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." <x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> cc Subject [X4U] Problem #2 Hello again. Here is my second problem... My ai powerbook won't turn off though the normal methods anymore. This started a couple of days ago. When ever I push the power button or choose shut down from the finder whatever applications I have going close but the computer stays on and nothing I can do will turn it off accept pushing the apple option ctrl shift and power buttons. On the day that this started happening I did two things that were maybe a cause 1) I deactivated some fonts using Extensis Suitcase 2) downloaded and used SolarSeek. I don't know if any of the above are relevant but I just thought I would mention them just in case. I have both verified and fixed disk permissions. I did this yesterday but it didn't help. If anyone has any clues why this is happening and how to fix it please let me know. Thanks in advance! Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20051216/5261213b/attachment.html