I am definitely unhappy with my update to 10.3.7, and wish that I had stayed with 10.3.6 on my main drive. After I updated, and installed the latest security update, I found that startup was very slow, and that MacChampion had timed out. Then I found that all connections to the Internet were very slow also, and that it took about ten times as long to start Mail or a browser as before. Each new connection to a web page took a long time in most cases except for web sites that stayed connected and did not ask for a return signal. Other applications were slow to start up even though they did not contact the internet. However, the 4 FireWire drives that I left connected work perfectly, and seem a tad faster than before the update. I have tried everything I could think of to eliminate the slow operation, including most of the suggestions on the Web. Some things are considerably faster than before the update, for example RagTime, Tex-Edit Plus, Mariner Write and Adobe Reader 7 are much snappier, folders open faster, Find works faster. My system seems to be rodk-solid and working properly except for the slowness. I am using a 1.8 GHZ G5 with 1GB RAM. I updated all 3 of my FireWire hard drives (Granite Digital 120 GB, LaCie 120 GB, LaCie 250GB), and I can boot up on all of them, and absolutely no problem there. They have always worked fine from the very first installation. When I need to look up a lot of stuff on the Internet, I use a FireWire drive running 10.3.6 in order to greatly speed up my work. I have a lot of work to do, and not much time to spend on maintenance so I can not try every thing possible to find and try to fix slowdown problems. I began using Macs a long time ago because I could get more done in a day than with my Windows PC, I had less trouble with spam, and installing or updating software took so little time. I would welcome any suggestions about eliminating the slow startup. George Harvey On Feb 3, 2005, revDAVE wrote: > Q: so - is everybody happy with 10.3.7? - Is it safe to upgrade at > this > point? ( I was under the impression that there were certain problems > especially related towards FireWire in 10.3.6 and also 10.3.7 - but > maybe > I was wrong...?)