hi, not to be weird but it says in these places that the apple II came out in 1977: http://packmug.ncsu.edu/woz/history.html http://www.apple-history.com/ http://tinylink.com/?CTCnuWrUpr http://tinylink.com/?UpTWeSbU8C I started using an apple II+ in 1982. on bass, watt http://hootpage.com > >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:38:26 -0600 >From: Greg Chapel <gchapel at att.net> >Subject: Re: [X4U] "Who makes the best personal computers?" vote at > Forbes >Message-ID: <BE32BA32.43F7%gchapel at att.net> > > >I don't think the Apple II came out until 1982. As this was about the time >of Commodore 64 as well. > >Greg >