I am running an ATI Radeon 7000 Mac in an 8600 with a Sonnet G4 upgrade and OS 10.2.8. The OS seems to think that I have two monitors running because I get no icons, dock, or menubar in OSX when the monitor is plugged into the ATI card. The mouse goes only to the edge of the screen on the top, bottom and right, but the mouse goes way beyond the left of the screen. So it seems as if the OS thinks the main screen is past the left edge of the monitor, ie. not visible to me. If I plug the monitor into the 8600 onboard video port, it displays correctly. When I started in OS9 running off the ATI card, it had a similar problem, but I was able to get into monitor Control Panel and set it to a single monitor. I tried running Jaguar with the monitor plugged into the onboard video (which also displays correctly), but I can't find anywhere in the ATI Preference Pane or the Displays Preference Pane to make the OS use the single monitor as the main screen. The ATI is running off the latest November 04 drivers, which is a 10.2.8-specific driver. And when the monitor's plugged into the Radeon 7000, the ATI driver even generates its own default desktop photo (a neat mountain/lake scene) and screensaver, not my default settings. It's just that I get no desktop and can't do anything under OSX when using the Radeon. (Even tried command-O to open the default volume and try to navigate to a control panel, but that too must appear -- if it *is* appearing -- off the left of the screen, because nothing is visible except the desktop photo. Anyone know how to force the desktop to display? -- Marc Stergionis -- Community Relations & website author Benefis Healthcare -- <http://www.benefis.org> "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer."