Yes, I was just too lazy to follow instructions. I'm not used to changing these sorts of settings for pop access. Once I followed the complete instructions provided by gmail, everything worked fine. Jim On 20-Feb-05, at 12:44 PM, phlbrck wrote: > >> The important settings are as follows: >> >> - Receivig tab in the Accounts preferences >> Advanced: [/] Require secure connection (SSL): [ Alternate Port ] >> >> - Outgoing Mail Server dialog >> Authentication: SMTP Authentication >> Advanced: [/] Require secure connection (SSL): [ STARTTLS ] >> [/] Override default port: [ 587 ] > > His instant service was a surprise since it was in my mind that his > native Japanese needed to pass through a translator - not so. > > I had been trying to extrapolate Google's instructions for Apple Mail > and could not get anything to work. The tips above May help Jim > Freeman.