On Jul 7, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Stroller wrote: > unless you are a California judge presently closing on a case of > this nature, you are not qualified to say "use of my wireless > network without getting [my] permission is a violation of the > California Penal Code". > Perhaps not, but I have been involved in a couple of cases like this and know the way a couple of judges here have ruled on this law. With all respect, I'd say you're less in a position to say it's _not_ a violation of Ca. Penal Code. I have no idea what the Florida code says. I know that the FBI and SS don't take this stuff lightly. I worked on a case with the SS where kids were using a laptop connected to a pay phone to Phreak and access phone switches and other Unix boxes. there's no question in my mind what would happen if you or I got caught doing that. These stupid teenagers were "innocent seekers after knowledge", (my personal opinion after spending days talking with them) not malicious tinkerers or destructors of data, but they cost literally millions of dollars to the phone companies whose switches they accessed. The companies couldn't afford to just believe they didn't plant any sleeper software. They had to wipe the computers and reinstall all the software, a big job, in hundreds of places and even in foreign countries. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! See my photos @ <http://homepage.mac.com/dflory>