I tried to use a Titanium Powerbook G4 running Mac OS X 10.4.1 in firewire target disk mode today. I connected it to a Powermac G4 Desktop running 10.3.9 and started up the Powermac G4 Desktop. The Powermac G4 Desktop system came up and the startup items began to start up. Out of the blue, I got one of those dark grey screens (kernal panic) informing me to power down the machine and restart it. Since I have gotten this screen infrequently in the past, I held down the power button for 5 to 10 seconds and the machine powered down. I then tried to restart the machine by powering it up and, to my surprise, it did not come up. I didn't even get the startup chime. I then powered the machine down again and disconnected all of the connecting cables to power, firewire devices, usb devises, network, etc. Again I tried to power the machine backup to no avail. The system seems to be dead. No startup chime or anything. Does anyone have an idea of what happened? In reading the manual on target disk mode it does make the point that the machine being connected to must have FireWire version 2.3.3 installed. Is this only for Mac OS 9? The apple web page describing 2.3.3 states: FireWire 2.3.3 fixes three problems that may be experienced by customers who are presently using FireWire 2.3 or an earlier version: Certain DV camcorders will no longer lose their connection or crash the computer when importing video using applications such as Final Cut Pro or iMovie. Mac OS will no longer hang while booting if certain FireWire hard disk drives are connected. Certain systems using multiple FireWire hard disk drives will no longer hang during heavy disk activity. Since I am NOT getting the startup chime I don't think I am getting even this far. It looks like I need to bring it to a Apple Service Center. Any ideas at all would be appreciated. Thanks. Stephen Lanza Software Complement