Count me in on that. G4 450MHz Cube, upped the hd to Seagate 80GB when the original bit it, replaced the BTO OEM Radeon when it died, have some additional RAM but otherwise stock. The only thing it is connected to is the LAN and the Apple monitor, well okay and the original 'ball' speakers that came with it. I get these multilingual dialog boxes on a dark grey screen, telling me I need to restart. Well, that's what I was trying to do, or trying to shutdown usually. Upon restart it wants to phone home and tell Apple about, saying OS X died or something, so I let it go ahead and report. I had hoped 10.4.1 would fix it but no such luck. Another note, or rather lack of one, is that the startup chime is barely audible if audible at all. It will sound when I am restarting from OS 9.2. On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Richard Clark wrote: > I don't know what the problem is but i have it on both my cube and > my emac. > > Richard > On 27/lug/05, at 19:44, revDAVE wrote: > > >> I upgraded recently from 10.3.9 to Tiger 10.4.1. >> >> More than 30 percent of the time - when I shut down the computer >> or restart >> - at the very end - I will get a kernel panic. >> >> - this is a second computer - and older G4 single-processor 450 >> - and I'm >> hardly using it at all - mainly just safari - Norton anti virus >> 10.0.1 and a >> few little programs like tex-edit etc... >> >> - I am using Canon printer driver software however... >> >> - I have shut down most of the system preferences that might be >> problematic... The only ones running now are my Logitech mouse >> software .. >> >> >> Q: Does anybody know what's causing these kernel panics during >> shutdown? >> >> - I could upgrade to Tiger 10.4.2 - however I would like to solve >> this >> problem first ... >> >> >