Neil Laubenthal said: >So what's the best thing to defrag with these days . . . I've sort of >sworn off of Norton Utilities as it gets blamed for lots of things . >. .and haven't kept up with the current state of these utilities. That's a good question. Ironically, though I agree with your assessment of Norton Utilities, Speed Disk, in my humble opinion, was by far the best hard drive defragmentation program available for the Mac. It's a shame that it can't be purchased separately. iDefrag had some very rough edges when it was first released, but it now appears to be the premier hard drive defragmentation utility for the Mac: http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iDefrag.php Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html