Has anyone tried to use the Application Keyboard Shortcuts in Panther? You open System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts, scroll down to Applications, click the "+" to Add, choose the application, then fill in the ("exact") menu item name, then type your keyboard shortcut and click Add. It adds to the list. I have done this several times in different applications, both Carbon and Cocoa. But when I subsequently go to the application and type my shortcut, I always get only an alert tone and never the expected menu action. Did Apple ship a feature which is completely broken, or am I too old to figure out simple things? If anyone has ever gotten one of these to work, please let us know which step I am omitting or mistaking. I have QuicKeys X2 installed. That might be interfering with it, but I also tried it once on another Mac which is fairly clean, and it didn't work there either. One strange thing about the design is that it seems you should also have to fill in the menu name instead of just the menu item; i.e. "Window > Zoom" instead of just "Zoom". What if there are two menus with the same item? How would the system know? But there is no field for the menu name. Jerry Krinock San Jose, CA USA