On Nov 7, 2005, at 05:18, Eugene wrote: > > Stupid Windoze web mormon enabled HTML commenting within a frame, > but forgot to disable HTML commenting. Result: rest of the frame > definition is incomplete, the HTML page is incomplete and invalid, > and nothing except the title is viewable. Yup, its not a "weird problem" at all, just a brain-dead "web-developer" weenie that probably only tested the page in IE ("It looks fine on my computer, I must have done it right!"). As Eugene said, here's the culprit within the HTML source: <!-----/frameset> It starts defining the frames, and after a few lines, it opens an HTML comment that is never closed. Every browser worth its salt will ignore anything past that line ("The developer wanted a comment, lets give him a comment!"), and therefore, the page is not displayed. IE, of course, tries to be holier than thou and figures "naaaw, he really didn't mean a comment, lets do something else". This might sound like IE is better than the rest, but the problem with this tactic is that IE renders the page in whatever form _IT_ thinks is right, not necessarily how the developer meant it. Then the developer just keeps on adding stupid things -- especially a weenie with little experience -- until it just "looks right", and you end up with a mess that only IE in its own li'l special way. Ah, the importance of following W3C standards and good coding practices. dZ. -- "The mills of the gods grind slowly, yet the grind exceeding small."